Reggie Perrin wrote: Djpekingman wrote: Reggie Perrin wrote:
If the EU fails (essentially an agreement to do certain things as a group) why would that "set off an economic chain of events that would make 2008 look like a market ripple"?
I've wanted to be convinced by Remain but their arguments are piss poor......infantile even.
They're not that poor when they're backed up by every economist, every major financial organisation , business and heads of government. Whereas Brexit have not come up with one credible number and dismiss every remain argument as 'scaremongering' in amongst their own ridiculous arguments like 13 million turks will come battering down the gates at eurotunnel when they get to join the eu, which will never happen in our lifetime - the EU won't even talk to them re accession while ever Erdogan is in charge and taking turkey back to the dark ages. But good luck if you leave - you'll need it - and don't all becoming to europe looking for jobs a la Auf Wiedersein Pet. That'll be me finished with the UK for good. The cunts won't even let me vote despite my having a british passport and an NI number.
I didn't say I agreed with any Brexit propaganda though did I? All the stuff you mention from major financial institutions is propaganda based on a biased premise. The status quo suits them.
I think we have a fair chance of a decent government in 2020 and I don't like the idea that we can't vote Commissioners out, it's like a dictatorship.
Again, another brexit myth. Commissioners are nominated by their member governments and serve a term of 5 years - just like your national government. The whole commission can be forced to resign via a vote of no-confidence from the eu parliament - just like your national government.
The status quo suits them and it suits you. Given that many many major companies in britain are owned by non british companies it mystifies me where this great british powerhouse of investment is going to come from if britain goes it alone. If, as their major trading party the EU slaps punitive tariffs on exports (as it seems increasingly likely they will do), there will be an exodus industry to europe complete with attendent uk job losses. The british government won't be able to borrow on the international market to prop failing industries up (they won't even do it now) because interest rates will be too high because the pound has plumetted. The argument that exports will be cheaper doesn't hold water because the imports of raw materials to make the stuff in the first place will be more expensive.
As for riots in france - well thats hardly anything new is it? From the student riots of '68 to the sheep burning and dung dumping episodes (triggered by cuts to the eu subsidy to farmers if you will) to the paris banilieus and now the anti dibble movement the french have loved and will always love a riot.
Who are all these countries who are going to join the EU? Turkey despite the Mail's hysterical headlines have not got a cat in hells chance and are moving further away, as Erdogan sacks secularism and moves ever more islamist/fascist, Serbia with all of its 7 million people are a long way away. As are Bosnia. As for the remainder Solvenia and Croatia are already in, Montenegro, Macedonia and Albania are at various stages of application and have a combined population of just over 5 million. Kosovo is still not a real country. I can't any of these Balkan states getting in within the next 5 years. Ukraine, not a chance while their still rowing with Putin, Belarus is still a communist dictatorship, Moldova aspires but has not applied and the Trans-dneister republic is not a real country.
Last edited by Djpekingman (Sat 28 May 2016 9:53 am)
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