Re: The EU Hokey Cokey
Travis Bickle wrote:Smutty Lips wrote:
Why all the bitterness at the Scots daring to question what they have in common with a rabidly right wing England? I don't get it.
Not bitterness on my part, more the fact the SNP aren't running the socialist utopia so many imagine or claim and yet hold themselves out as saviours.
They're not actually up to much when it comes to running anything. They rode on a wave of dissatisfaction with a Parliament in London that didn't speak or act for Scotland. I get that but when you look at them in devolved government and in Westminster I reckon the Scots are poorly served. Interesting that the novelty has already worn off for Mahairi Black. Maybe if she tried meeting a few constituents and answering the odd letter she wouldn't be so bored....
No bitterness SL, I just think that she's a self serving rabble rousing shit house. The scots were given a referendum and were told that it was a once in a lifetime event. That should be so.
The supposed hardships scotland has faced are no different to large areas of the north of england. The working class experience of sheffield and the lack of representation of their views & wishes at Westminster is no different to any Scottish city. It's not the evil english per se, it's the evil Tories. Plus the historic east coast/west coast animosity and the sectarian stuff has got fuck all to do with people south of the border. Nor has a lot of scotland's society ills.
Economically/politically speaking, she's got champagne tastes on beer money. Her understanding of the word 'independence' differs from mine. She simply wants to attain the title of 'independence', but retain the protection and benefit of England's good points, like the £ and BofE, or she intends to change the supposedly yoke of the english for the yoke of the EU (basically germany or france). Both of which are hypocrisy. She probably envisages a situation where the EU would pump money into the country and they'd become hi tec/bio science/call centre centre, post brexit, just to piss the rest of the UK off, and she'd be treated as an equal by the likes of Merkel. Somebody other than the scots have to finance her view of an 'independent' Scotland. I read somewhere that to balance the books she's need to raise taxes on average £1k per tax payer, and that isn't sustainable.
And I'd still suggest that the spanish wouldn't be happy with scotland voting for independence and quickly being accepted into the EU fold.
Well put. Totally agree.