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So my mum left us some wedge once the house was sold and all other business taken care of. Mrs AHH liquidated her 401k, she'd been paid in New York for a while by the journal despite being in either Tokyo or HK (septics doing stupid septic things...) Anyhow we've bought a house in Shrewsbury where she's from. In the Town Centre, half mile from the station, the idea being we retire or semi retire to it as soon as possible.

Originally we were buying an apartment in converted church around the corner for 310k. This fell through due to HSBC being a heinously incompetent set of cunts (this being one of their core values.) Ultimately we've bought a 5 storey grade 2 listed Georgian terrace house for 290k which we are doing up. Initial estimates for tanking the basement securing the integrity of the roof windows brickwork and services is 32k, This is being revised upwards daily.

The district surveyor is going in today, she's some Guardian reading hair shirt fucker by the sounds. Looks like we are in for a battle on putting sealed unit double glazed panels in the sash frames as double glazing is not authentic Georgian. I have inquired if it's okay to throw raw sewage into the street as neither are the bathrooms. Mrs AHH has banned me from talking directly to the other protagonists which maybe for the best. I'm not in the best of moods to begin with as apparently I can draw scale plans with greater speed and accuracy in PowerPoint than our building surveyors can manage with AutoCad and I've never set foot in the place!

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Take a ganders - might be useful http://www.buildingsheriff.com/

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Mrs AHH has banned me from talking directly to the other protagonists which maybe for the best

I would tend to agree......

Nice area though with a few lovely restaurants

Might Might even hep with the temper tantrums AHH.......

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smiley wrote:

Take a ganders - might be useful http://www.buildingsheriff.com/

Be all over that later, thanks.

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Ray Hankin's shorts wrote:

Mrs AHH has banned me from talking directly to the other protagonists which maybe for the best

I would tend to agree...... big_smile


Nice area though with a few lovely restaurants

Might Might even hep with the temper tantrums AHH.......

Down the bottom of Swan Hill if you know Shrewsbury

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:

So my mum left us some wedge once the house was sold and all other business taken care of. Mrs AHH liquidated her 401k, she'd been paid in New York for a while by the journal despite being in either Tokyo or HK (septics doing stupid septic things...) Anyhow we've bought a house in Shrewsbury where she's from. In the Town Centre, half mile from the station, the idea being we retire or semi retire to it as soon as possible.

Originally we were buying an apartment in converted church around the corner for 310k. This fell through due to HSBC being a heinously incompetent set of cunts (this being one of their core values.) Ultimately we've bought a 5 storey grade 2 listed Georgian terrace house for 290k which we are doing up. Initial estimates for tanking the basement securing the integrity of the roof windows brickwork and services is 32k, This is being revised upwards daily.

The district surveyor is going in today, she's some Guardian reading hair shirt fucker by the sounds. Looks like we are in for a battle on putting sealed unit double glazed panels in the sash frames as double glazing is not authentic Georgian. I have inquired if it's okay to throw raw sewage into the street as neither are the bathrooms. Mrs AHH has banned me from talking directly to the other protagonists which maybe for the best. I'm not in the best of moods to begin with as apparently I can draw scale plans with greater speed and accuracy in PowerPoint than our building surveyors can manage with AutoCad and I've never set foot in the place!

My mate specialises in doing basements AHH.  Good Leeds lad (well our age) and a top man too.  His name is Mick Foster , lives in Guiseley but from Lofthouse. 

http://www.purebasementsystems.co.uk/fl … oC1vLw_wcB

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If you are the moaning type, perhaps a grade II listed building wasn't the best buy for you.

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If you are the moaning type, perhaps a grade II listed building wasn't the best buy for you.

Grade 2 is a very wide band. This is not a building of specific architectuaral interest and nobody famous lived there, it's just Georgian. The thing is as always with local authorities is the interpretation that they apply. Generally if there is an opportunity to be a cunt they are going to take a firm grip with both hands. The thing is we are not unreasonable at all. The UPVC conservatory for instance is being sorted with timber, the fabric of the building will be restored and protected. We just like a little confort and lower heating bills in the winter months. The way to achieve this is upgrading the loft insulation, no planning required. Thermal cladding to the internal walls, grey area this one as it is covered in plaster so who would know the difference. and the double glazed panels. Such panels have been used in sash windows in buildings with a much harder listing than ours, the vagary of the system though in the UK is that you are at the mercy of people who often hate you because you have more money than them.

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:

So my mum left us some wedge once the house was sold and all other business taken care of. Mrs AHH liquidated her 401k, she'd been paid in New York for a while by the journal despite being in either Tokyo or HK (septics doing stupid septic things...) Anyhow we've bought a house in Shrewsbury where she's from. In the Town Centre, half mile from the station, the idea being we retire or semi retire to it as soon as possible.

Originally we were buying an apartment in converted church around the corner for 310k. This fell through due to HSBC being a heinously incompetent set of cunts (this being one of their core values.) Ultimately we've bought a 5 storey grade 2 listed Georgian terrace house for 290k which we are doing up. Initial estimates for tanking the basement securing the integrity of the roof windows brickwork and services is 32k, This is being revised upwards daily.

The district surveyor is going in today, she's some Guardian reading hair shirt fucker by the sounds. Looks like we are in for a battle on putting sealed unit double glazed panels in the sash frames as double glazing is not authentic Georgian. I have inquired if it's okay to throw raw sewage into the street as neither are the bathrooms. Mrs AHH has banned me from talking directly to the other protagonists which maybe for the best. I'm not in the best of moods to begin with as apparently I can draw scale plans with greater speed and accuracy in PowerPoint than our building surveyors can manage with AutoCad and I've never set foot in the place!

My mate specialises in doing basements AHH.  Good Leeds lad (well our age) and a top man too.  His name is Mick Foster , lives in Guiseley but from Lofthouse. 

http://www.purebasementsystems.co.uk/fl … oC1vLw_wcB

Were we in Leeds I'd be giving him a call, the only place Shrewsbury is close to though is Wales! Got a mate in London who did our our loft apartment, love to let him loose, but geography forbids..

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:
space wrote:

If you are the moaning type, perhaps a grade II listed building wasn't the best buy for you.

Grade 2 is a very wide band. This is not a building of specific architectuaral interest and nobody famous lived there, it's just Georgian. The thing is as always with local authorities is the interpretation that they apply. Generally if there is an opportunity to be a cunt they are going to take a firm grip with both hands. The thing is we are not unreasonable at all. The UPVC conservatory for instance is being sorted with timber, the fabric of the building will be restored and protected. We just like a little confort and lower heating bills in the winter months. The way to achieve this is upgrading the loft insulation, not planning required. Thermal cladding to the internal walls, grey are this one as it is covered in plaster so who would know the difference. and the double glazed panels. Such panels have been used in sash windows with a much harder listing than ours, the vagary of the system though in the UK is that you are at the mercy of people who often hate you because you have more money than them.

In a 290k house? Don't flatter yourself.

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Djpekingman wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:
space wrote:

If you are the moaning type, perhaps a grade II listed building wasn't the best buy for you.

Grade 2 is a very wide band. This is not a building of specific architectuaral interest and nobody famous lived there, it's just Georgian. The thing is as always with local authorities is the interpretation that they apply. Generally if there is an opportunity to be a cunt they are going to take a firm grip with both hands. The thing is we are not unreasonable at all. The UPVC conservatory for instance is being sorted with timber, the fabric of the building will be restored and protected. We just like a little confort and lower heating bills in the winter months. The way to achieve this is upgrading the loft insulation, not planning required. Thermal cladding to the internal walls, grey are this one as it is covered in plaster so who would know the difference. and the double glazed panels. Such panels have been used in sash windows with a much harder listing than ours, the vagary of the system though in the UK is that you are at the mercy of people who often hate you because you have more money than them.

In a 290k house? Don't flatter yourself.

Mol's spent more than a 1/3 of that on a holiday. wink

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smiley wrote:

Take a ganders - might be useful http://www.buildingsheriff.com/

Those rates are not up to date sparks are getting between £200 - 250 per day

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Pat's gonna have somewhere to sleep for Shrewsbury away this time around.. wink

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Misura wrote:
Djpekingman wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Grade 2 is a very wide band. This is not a building of specific architectuaral interest and nobody famous lived there, it's just Georgian. The thing is as always with local authorities is the interpretation that they apply. Generally if there is an opportunity to be a cunt they are going to take a firm grip with both hands. The thing is we are not unreasonable at all. The UPVC conservatory for instance is being sorted with timber, the fabric of the building will be restored and protected. We just like a little confort and lower heating bills in the winter months. The way to achieve this is upgrading the loft insulation, not planning required. Thermal cladding to the internal walls, grey are this one as it is covered in plaster so who would know the difference. and the double glazed panels. Such panels have been used in sash windows with a much harder listing than ours, the vagary of the system though in the UK is that you are at the mercy of people who often hate you because you have more money than them.

In a 290k house? Don't flatter yourself.

Mol's spent more than a 1/3 of that on a holiday. wink


Try 3/4s. Good luck AHH, not that I'm any position to these days, but would never take on a listed building. It's just inviting aggravation.

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Not in a position to buy a listed teapot atm truth be told. Why is is when I'm working, but off sick I get £88 a week SSP and nowt else, nowt. But If I'm unemployed and sick I'd get my rent paid, £108 a week and a host of other financial benefits and free dental/glasses etc. Work that one one and come back to me. All in it together eh Dave?

I'm giving serious consideration to having myself declared long term unfit for work and doing a 'Pat' for 16 weeks before coming out to a cushy housing association flat and having all my debts wiped in a DRO.

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When you retire proper you could get that part time job as the bloke in the row boat who fetches Shrewsbury Towns footballs when they go in the river.

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Coracle? I'm told they've moved grounds.

Each to their own but if I had that kind of money for a place a fixer upper would be the furthest thing from my mind.  When I cash in my annuity and sell this place - many years from now, it's a plot of land and get something built how I want it.

Mol do what works best for you, you're only going round the once.

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Back at work next week all things being equal, but the point remains.

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Coracle? I'm told they've moved grounds.

Each to their own but if I had that kind of money for a place a fixer upper would be the furthest thing from my mind.  When I cash in my annuity and sell this place & pay for my kids college fees - many years from now, it's a plot of land and a mobile home.

Mol do what works best for you, you're only going round the once.

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Without sounding smug, paid a ton of money for their elementary and middle schools. All three on academic scholarships for high school. Eldest already taken a test for Columbia. Not saying they'll end up at an Ivy League nor am I saying that that's the best for everyone anyway but I'm quietly confident they'll do ok scholarship wise. Failing that, the wife's three cousins all worked while they went through college and survived.

Should probably get a paternity test done, not been the most academic of people.

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Smarts always beat brains. As one estranged sister said to me "In Mensa when you were nine, not an ounce of common sense at thirty nine, you're a fucking idiot".

"Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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Big decision for us is whether we move in about four years time. As things stand, I can pay the house off in less than ten with any luck. But I do think about moving up the Valley. And that might mean extending how long we have to pay. Lot of things to think about. Mrs will be earning again by then I suspect which will help. Need to think about the kids as well.
They sound like bright kids Cuts. And there is so much to be said for learning for its own sake. If I had my time again I'd work my fucking arse off and get into Oxford. Education can and should be about more than just what job you get at the end. My old man's life was changed beyond recognition in every respect by going to Leeds University. Opened his eyes to so much. I know for a lot the university experience has changed, probably for most, but it can still be truly life-changing.
Ivy fucking League mate, great thing to aim for. Why not them?

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Worth it for the contacts they'll make if now't else. That's what opens doors.

"Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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I doubt the cost of borrowing money will ever be as cheap as it currently is. There is a lot to be said, if it can be afforded, to max out & fix for as long as you can now. Sub 3% for 10 yrs is a cracking deal. There's a certain amount of risk with the brexit vote.

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Mol wrote:

Worth it for the contacts they'll make if now't else. That's what opens doors.

Friends not contacts. That's kind of my point. Of course going to one of the best universities increases your chances of 'getting on' but my old man became a teacher and then a lecturer after his degree (he got a first, then did his masters etc), hardly a captain of industry on a massive wedge.
But he was exposed to so much, art, culture etc and he learnt to and was encouraged to think. Sounds daft but feeding your head is good for you. Again, I know things have changed. It's a different world and academia has changed with it. But I love the thought of one of my kids going to somewhere where they can think and be free to do so. I'm rambling but you get my point.

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