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I’ll take a point here, Forest are very unpredictable, they popped three past Norwich. Happy with 1-1.

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Mitaman wrote:

I’ll take a point here, Forest are very unpredictable, they popped three past Norwich. Happy with 1-1.

Agreed. Be Good to stop teams scoring against us. Villa, Rovers & Hull had 2 shots on target and they went in. A nice clean sheet required against Forest please.

Cooper cant come back soon enough for me. We need Phillips back in Central Midfield I think.

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Same starting line up .

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Fear the worst now after that shambles

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Twat spanner

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Oh dear

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Fuck . Hear we go again, chasing a game . 1-0

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Another fucking useless ref

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Not at the races at all, misplaced passes everywhere, Forshaw has been guilty of that for a few games now. Klich too, nowt coming off. And yeah, ref is useless, they've been time wasting since the goal, 9 mins in. Interesting to see what Bielsa does.

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Not wanting to criticise Bielsa but I think picking the same team again is a mistake. Phillips needs to be where he should be playing, Forshsaw dropped and give Halme a chance. I don't think the current formation is working since Cooper got injured. We are conceding too many.

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Clarke 1-1 get in

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Alioski.

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Loving the way they never give up.

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Fuck my trumpet.

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Don't deserve that. Bielsa is going to have to earn his money now! Radz better get his cheque book out as well.

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Still top of the league!

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It,s no good Bielsa saying they don,t need signings when he only has a depleted defence and playing players,Phillips out of position to compensate for it. Ayling is still rusty and not fully fit, i don,t know why Shackleton was dropped Forshaw was at fault on a number of occasions. Luckily scores went for us again today and still top, but i fear not for long.

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I know he's young but the more I see BPF the more he doesn't appear to be getting any better.

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Shame that . Scored the 2nd too early. They never looked like scorning until we took the lead . Roofe still had a great chances to of got us back in it. Foreshaw gave em the first and dived in for another.

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Didn't deserve that. Heroic effort with ten men... Glaringly obvious with their 3rd goal. We don't get experienced back up in the GK + centre half position , we will fuck this up !
Sort it out Radz !
Couple of wingers who can cross it + a partner for Roofe ?  The above definately applies though/

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Showed good spirit today but masters of our own downfall.
Forshaw had a mare and Phillips back to his brain dead worst with the sending off.
All over the place at the back highlighted by their third when Jansson lost Murphy.

Plenty of positives going forward just not clinical enough again.
Seen us play worse this season and win!

Still all to play for but it's starting to tighten up at the top again and a couple of fresh faces added to the return of Bamford hopefully, would inject some added vigour.

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I am unsure why he doesn't play Halme alongside Jansson and retain KP in his best position. I didn't think Halme did a bad job from the little  have seen of him?

Now we have a problem with Philips out for three games. Bielsa is a purist, that is not in doubt, but sometimes one wonders why we didn't shut up shop when we were 2-1 up with 10 men?You cant play high tempo with only 10, its hard enough with 11.

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Actually played better with 10 men. I think Bielsa should have tried to shut up shop but it almost seemed as if the players wanted to make a point by trying to take the game to Forest, even when they were outnumbered.

You can't criticise the commitment shown by the players, who obviously believe in Bielsa. I'm sure a second keeper will be brought in this month, perhaps another midfielder or defender, too.

I just have a feeling in my bones, based on the way they are playing, that they will go up this season, the centenary year. It would be nice to have just one season against the big boys, wouldn't it?

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NOTTINGHAM FOREST 4-2 LEEDS UNITED: DEFENDING VALIANCE
In 2018-19 articles, Free, Leeds United, Leeds United Match Reports 2018/19 by Moscowhite • Daniel ChapmanJanuary 2, 2019
For a minute the madness was on our side: Ezgjan Alioski’s disbelieving glance at a flagless lino, Salim Lamrani leading the limbs in the away end, Pontus Jansson with that Counter Strike feeling written all over his face.
This shouldn’t have been possible. Kalvin Phillips was sent off when Leeds United were already losing to Nottingham Forest, and he’s such a crucial player that he might have taken everything with him. His reckless lunge after losing the ball was, I thought at the time, the biggest risk to United’s promotion aspirations since the start of our permanent injury crisis. After missing the second half against Forest he’ll miss two important league games, against Derby County and Stoke City. It’s months since Phillips endured those early substitutions against Swansea City and Birmingham City, and whether in midfield or defence he’s been absolutely crucial to everything United have done this season, even in the Carabao Cup. He tried looking nonchalant while walking from the field, but inside he knew that he wasn’t only guilty of the foul, but guilty of letting Marcelo Bielsa down. Bielsa has relied on Phillips like no other this season; for the next couple of games, Bielsa can’t.
There was still half a match against Forest to play before worrying about that, and while Phillips’ absence made getting anything from the game harder, Adam Forshaw’s presence made it almost impossible. Phillips’ lousy lack of discipline was mild compared to Forshaw’s underhit pass in the general direction of Bailey Peacock-Farrell, but the specific direction of Jack Colback, who veered around Peacock-Farrell’s best efforts to give Forest the lead after four minutes. It was also mild compared to Forshaw’s underhit pass that Joe Lolley deflected to Daryl Murphy, whose shot was blocked by Peacock-Farrell as soon as it left his boot.
The calamities continued after Bielsa used half-time to introduce a back three of Jansson, Barry Douglas and Luke Ayling behind a policy of all-out attacking. Aggressive pursuit of an equaliser required energetic covering from the midfield to stop any Forest counter attacks; it didn’t require Forshaw being gently eased away when trying to defend, letting Forest into a gaping space behind him. He played one good through ball that Kemar Roofe should have finished, but that was a lone tick in favour of a player who, in Phillips’ absence, will have to live up to Bielsa’s assessment that he’s the best player in the squad.
Despite the deficiencies, mania still took hold. The other half-time change was the usual Jack Clarke for the unusually good Jack Harrison, but before anyone had finished sympathising with Harrison’s misfortune, Clarke had equalised, making compassion pointless. Pablo Hernandez controlled a loose ball and passed to Roofe, whose clever backheeling moved things along to Mateusz Klich. The Forest defenders rushed one way and Klich played slowly the other, where Clarke had space to shoot into the bottom corner. It was all about passion now.
It wasn’t an unlikely equaliser, because Leeds confounded Forest’s expectations from the moment the second half kicked off. A team one player and one goal down can be expected to heed its manager’s half-time requirement of getting something from the second half, but few can be expected to leave their centre-half one-on-one with the opposing centre-forward and not give defending another thought. Typically it was the centre-half, Jansson, still up after a corner, who headed Hernandez’s cross into the six yard box, where Alioski volleyed alone to put Leeds 2-1 ahead. The ferocious celebrations with fans, injured players and joyful translators at the front of the away stand behind the goal were only bettered by the baffled look on Aitor Karanka’s face.
The style, the attempt and the execution of the second half’s first twenty minutes was all madness, and this was the glory we hoped for when Bielsa came to Leeds. No coach does defiance like Bielsa, especially when he’s flinging it down against logic. His reckless contempt for reality is his charm, his success, and perhaps his greatest failing.
Bielsa continued his resistance after the match, and he might have had a point. He dismissed the idea of bringing on a defensive player because he couldn’t bear to take off an attacking one — “I would have thought that I was destroying something which was working well” — which sounds whimsical given the three goals Leeds conceded in twelve minutes after taking the lead. The first two, though, were conceded from badly defended corners, and while Aapo Halme might have helped, Bielsa seems to regard goals conceded from set-pieces as an irritating exception to the normal rules of combat. Forshaw didn’t stop Jack Robinson heading down for Colback to score his second, and Peacock-Farrell’s uncertainty was punished when a cross went over Jansson’s head and onto Murphy’s, and that’s just what happens at corners according to Bielsa. “If you take out the goals that are scored at set-pieces, we are the team who have conceded the least,” he said after the game, acknowledging the problem, and ignoring it. To Bielsa, one tall centre-half more or less wouldn’t have made any difference.
Forest’s fourth goal again involved Forshaw, after Murphy drifted wide to bounce a counter-attacking pass to Ben Osborn, who twisted past Forshaw as if he wasn’t there and smashed the ball into the top corner. The goal was an ironic death knell for United’s defending; two goals down with fifteen minutes left, there was no point becoming more defensive now. Leeds no longer had the forward-facing madness that put them ahead the first time, but they did have that good chance for Roofe from Forshaw’s pass; Roofe’s header, just over from close range after Alioski’s cross; Jack Robinson getting on the end of another Alioski cross, heading it against his own post.
5-4 was only impossible in the real world. When Bielsa watches the video tape and tots up those opportunities, he’ll see the maddest of mad victories flashing before his mad eyes. He’ll see replays of Jack Robinson’s thirteenth minute foul on Harrison, who was in the midst of controlling a long curving punt from Jansson and preparing to slot a shot past the keeper when he was shoved down on the edge of the area. Covering players and a generous interpretation of attempting to win the ball saved Robinson from a red card; a few inches saved Forest from an equalising free-kick by Barry Douglas. How different the game might have become, then.
And how different might the game have become had Bielsa not been directing. Aitor Karanka, trying to keep his job, was a bystander as Bielsa hired him and fired him and hired him according to his quixotic pursuit of three points. Sometimes Leeds are tainted by their valiance; tightening up at a goal down and hoping to nick a draw wouldn’t have sent anyone home to Leeds glummer. Instead Leeds went jousting against the windmills in their heads, and paid the price for their bravery. It leaves them two points clear at the top of the league, enough to make such a risky strategy look just about calculated. But blink again and it all just looks mad. ◉

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Aim Low and miss...

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