Topic: Wrexham Teen Gangs of the 80s

Alright,

I am trying to compile a definitive list of all the teen gangs that operated in and around Wrexham in the 80s. It was prompted by seeing a bit of LlayRA graffiti in Alyn Waters country park. Can anyone add to this list?:

LlayRA
GresAS
GV Psychos
Bellvue Butchers
Holt Who Goes There Crew

We didn't have a gang, as such, in Bangor-on-Dee but no one used to mess with the Young Farmers.

I will also take nominations for you favourite bits of graffiti seen in and around the town. Obviously the famous "where's ya boyz" that was scrawled on the back of the Tech End is right up there. Milliners toilets used to have a Legia Warsaw badge inside a hangman's noose with something about Polonia Warsaw below. This was about ten years ago, which makes it more bizarre. It also had "Carl Kennedy is God" written next to it.

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The Smithfield Slashers - sprayed across the Smithfield pub wall.
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'Wrexham FC Frontline kill all comers' sprayed across the Kop enterance near the Kop.

'Enter at your own risk' sprayed at the back of the Border Stand


Surely the most famous Wrexham FC graffiti of all time was on the A483 under the bridge.
'Wrexham FC Wembley 78'

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The Ruabon Travel Firm sprang up in the mid 80's briefly, before it underwent a name change to become the 483 Squad. "We! We! The 483!", as the chant went. The name was derived from the fact the three members, me, Chris and Gez, used to travel in to Wrexham matches along the A483. It was felt Ruabon travel Firm(RTF) was a bit restricting as the other two didn't really live in Ruabon, although they did drink there. 
We never had a fight with anyone, although Chris once snarled at a young lad in the car park at Scunny after they'd beaten us in that season when we just managed to beat the conference drop... he was very drunk.

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Always loved the 'Pompey' graffiti sprayed on the wall where the little printers was; where the back of TK Maxx is now, opposite the Kebab shop and the lamented Cross Foxes. It was very faded but still legible when they knocked it all down a decade ago.

It was put there in 1976. First game of the season, the fag end of that boiling hot summer, Portsmouth had just come down and ran riot around town before the game. A mate saw them in Woollies stealing all the plastic footballs (the ones that used to have a load of teams names on) and booting them around. Bobby Shinton's first game and he scored in a 2-0 win, a game that sticks in my mind.

Liked 'Ritchie Blackmore' sprayed on Gwersyllt station in the 70s. That's sadly gone now too, as they did the platforms up a few years ago.

'Kick to kill' would be a common phrase in those days for would be sprayers, preceeded by your teams name.

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If you have the misfortune to get the train from Bidston back towards Wrexham, shortly after leaving the pony-inhabited Wirral wasteland you will see "Joey" and "Brian" on a bridge. I am not saying it was perpetrated by two-thirds of the three wise men but the heights of the respective monikers are commensurate with their comparative statures. Maybe Kevin Reeves was grounded that day.

I don't know if this site accepts photos but if so could someone find me a classic example of the WXM tag with the top of the X being the bottom of QP. Do you know what I mean?

Didn't the FL used to have calling cards with "Wrexham Frontline - dress to thrill, kill to kill" on them? I imagine the former would be more difficult than the latter.

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I know the QP logo. I once found a hard hat at the side of the road in Ruabon with that drawn on the front. Frontline motto on the wall in a pub in Victoria station was 'Wrexham Frontline, hated but rated' as I remember. I think there was also 'Wrexham frontline, business, as usual.'.

The RTF had a calling card with 'Dress To Impress' on it, which was a bit of a let down given that Gez was a mess and and Chris was a borderline Goth. Our calling card also required a membership number, which might not have been the best move if the Old Bill ever launched a dawn raid.

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I was actually in a tidy little crew called the 205 Squad, back in the day. We used to travel to away games in a Peugeot 205 that my mate won in an Evening Leader "guess the time of the first bottle of Beaujolais nouveau arrives in Wrexham" competition. The only scrape we got into was in Crewe when a group of lads chased us as far as the Broxton roundabout in their beat-up Escort before giving up. We employed the classic tactic of pulling over, waiting for them to get out of their car and then driving off again. Discretion is the better part of valour.

Mason was our leader as it was his car. He appointed me the "leader au gratin", which I thought meant I was in charge when he was not around. I have only recently found out it meant I was the "leader covered with bread crumbs and sometimes butter and grated cheese, and then browned in an oven".

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hard to let talk of 70s graffiti go without giving "BELLO" a mention. Used to go round the town with the butchers now and again.... masters of the unprovoked attack but mostly good lads; sadly, they put paid to the Wrexham Lager festivals.

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CarlDouglas wrote:

If you have the misfortune to get the train from Bidston back towards Wrexham, shortly after leaving the pony-inhabited Wirral wasteland you will see "Joey" and "Brian" on a bridge. I am not saying it was perpetrated by two-thirds of the three wise men but the heights of the respective monikers are commensurate with their comparative statures. Maybe Kevin Reeves was grounded that day.

I don't know if this site accepts photos but if so could someone find me a classic example of the WXM tag with the top of the X being the bottom of QP. Do you know what I mean?

Didn't the FL used to have calling cards with "Wrexham Frontline - dress to thrill, kill to kill" on them? I imagine the former would be more difficult than the latter.

First ever Frontline calling card read: ' Congratulatations.  You have just met Wrexham's top boys on tour '

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AAWF - which stood for Acton All Weather Firm...young uns who were also seen in some quarters of the Frontline as the..... Babyliners

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We had the 'Martyrs U5 Squad'.

(Average age 13, average height, 4ft 11 inches. We must have terrified opposing fans thinking about it)

Oxo was in the 'M5 Firm' which was the five of them in a white Escort they called 'Elwood'.
They were permanently drunk.
Guinness or Murphys stout.

And whenever we played at the Racecourse Cardiff would always sing
'We're gonna Wreck-some town tonight, we're gonna Wreck-some town tonight'
To the tune of 'Opps upside your head'.

Wreck-some.

As in Wrexham.

Geddit? big_smile

Shit actually init?

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I remember a small bunch of Newport fans coming to a Welsh cup semi-final 2nd leg at the Racecourse, 1987, just checked. They scored a last minute equaliser to go through and their fans jumped about and chanted "ee-aye-oo, ee-aye-oo, ee-aye-oo, ee-aye-oo" over and over again... most peculiar..

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Cardiff came up, 1982/3. Must have been, that was when we went straight through from 2nd to 4th, like some colonic irrigation. We won our first game of the season there, on BBC Wales too. Though we were coming back up. We didn't, they did.

Anyway, Cardiff's donkey jacket clad hordes arrived midwinter for the return, singing "I'll be there, with me little pick and shovel" all game. Think they won. Many went back on what must be the biggest football special I've ever seen, the train carridges went all the way up to the level crossing at the hospital.

25 years on, this monstrosity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbjqBi_VwbA

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Oh my.

There was some good Cardiff related music out there ages ago, a load of samples of crowd chanting over a dub beat as I remember, on a cassette given away free with a fanzine... then there was the band Barker, David Giles' son used to be with them, they released a decent tune about a footballer, still got it on cd somewhere.

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Newport fans in 1987, could that be the year that Merthyr beat them in the Final? Ninian Park segregated three ways that day; Newport, Merthyr and Cardiff.

Can't believe no-one has mentioned the huge Merthyr support for a Premier Cup semi final a few years ago, 9 of us in your away end. I can provide names if required.

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Donkey Jackets! Ha. NUM probably.

As is the 'I'll be there Song'.

Sung by striking miners in the General Strike of '26 and STILL sung on the terraces today.
No THAT'S a club with history. wink

I remember a phot of Wrexham fans in the old Kop and some had Miners Hats on with stuff like WFC on them.
Has anyone got that photo?
There's a Gog there with the 'classic' Welsh 4-1 adidas top on too.

Weren't the Wrexham 9 mentioned on S4C?
You were sliding in the rain or something?

And didn't Oxo actually BET on the Martyrs for that game?
(They lost 8 nil I think big_smile)

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Our Welsh Cup/Premier Cup defeats at the Racecourse all seem to merge into one, the intrepid 9 were mentioned for our bunnyhop races across the stand as we went down 8-0 (I think Morrell scored 6 that night), I came second. Ended up in the Turf after the game so drunk that I phoned one of the lads in Australia to berate the team. Another time some Wrexham lads took us to the Lager Club where we ended being handed cans and cans of lager for the trip back, it was like a scene from crackerjack with cans being dropped at every step.

As for NUM info, I remember our supporters coach being routinely stopped at the border during 1984 as we headed to play in the midlands. We had a few lads who were on strike with us, free trip etc., and it used to take ages to confirm that we weren't flying pickets.

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By God we had a team in those days! Morrell, I remember him, little tiny feller he was, suffered from ricketts as a lad and had these strange bendy legs but Iesu Mawr he could hit a ball. There was another chap as well, Trundle, big fat lad, bit orange, think it was a strain of jaundice that caused that, what a player he was. He used to run forward, balancing the ball on his knee, then let it roll down his shin and flick it up and over the goalkeeper, bit of a fancy dan, always used to wear spats. By God we had a team in those days...

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Oxo Midnight Stumbler wrote:

Another time some Wrexham lads took us to the Lager Club where we ended being handed cans and cans of lager for the trip back, it was like a scene from crackerjack with cans being dropped at every step

You would have need as much as you could haul onto the bus. It was like piss, especially the cans. Only about 3% or so. I think the old Border Bitter (before my time) was weak too.

Not sure I'm the best to comment about Wrexham Laaaaager, being a bitter drinker. Certainly a sad day when it went.

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Wrexham did hav  cracking team in them days.

I was saying in a thread once that I seen 'em fuckin' lamp Southend down there.

Young Ferguson was laying balls through for Trundle and Morell and Southend couldn't live with them.

They went up that year too.

Such a shame. sad

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How come nobody's mentioned the infamous Pandy Territorial Army?

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What about pub gangs. I used to drink in the Raglan and we always had trouble with the Cambrian lads. We all moved up to the Swan and we followed Wrexham around a lot in them days.

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Cambrian was always the FL pub wasn't it, they had that fantastic fight with some Chester boozer during a Sunday League cup final.. someone's leg got broken with a corner flag?

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The Dogs was more the FL pub at the time, word got to the FL that The Cambrian were playing Saughall(which is next door to Blacon)at Gresford in a final so they turned up for some fun.

As for the corner flags, they were more like scraps of cloth stapled to pieces of 4x2 which explains how the Saughall lad got his legs broken when he got clumped with one.

The prosecution video was a big hit in Magaluff the following year.

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The Cambrian were kicked out of the Gresford Colliery club, I made a few bob repairing the changing huts after them. Was it after that game? Can't see the benefit in it all myself; losing a good pitch with a clubhouse to make money for the club for "a bit of fun"   and people think I'm soft?

And you lot are with Lindsay in his quest to own part of WFC? AND you wonder why I have a problem with that?

Grow up lad!!

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