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Mitaman wrote:

Almost certainly there will be a 'Napoleon' hat on at least one front page.

Permission to get jingoistic yet sir?

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I'm getting a Trippier haircut tomorrow.

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It's all beginning to look familiar again.

Leeds United:  Boiling Barnsley's piss since 2018.

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edging back to us again, I don't think Croatia have much left in the tank

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Well, maybe a bit....

She’s the main man in the office in the city and she treats me like I’m just another lackey, but I can put a tennis racket up against my face and pretend that I am Kendo Nagasaki...

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Shame, but I'm not to unhappy. We've a young side that can play decent football.Just annoying that the next one will be in a fucking desert thanks to that cunt Blatter.

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Just wish that semi safe pass back every time would be a punt forward down the wing.

We had it for a while, felt good.

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Sorry, they, not we.

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Third place play off, that'll be ace.

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Young and Vardy's last games?

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I'd have given Vardy the whole second half. If you're bringing Sterling off after it is apparent the ref's letting a lot of fouls go I'd have put him out there instead of Rashford.

Back three switched off for the second goal (watched it again, it's on Stones), let Pickford down badly. He played well but I'm not a believer just yet. Thought Rose offered more than Young and he's got a right to feel hard done by.
On the plus side, no more It's Coming Home  for you folks and no more Alexi fucking Lalas for me.

I'm not convinced by Southgate either. His substitutions did nothing to turn that game back in England's favor.

Lalas actually said some of those Croatians belong in the TDF. What a knob.

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:
Mitaman wrote:

Almost certainly there will be a 'Napoleon' hat on at least one front page.

Permission to get jingoistic yet sir?

I thought we did very well, looked like a Roy Hodgson team in the second half sadly.

Permission 100% granted Albert. I expect you to walk into the Captains bar on Saturday wearing a Napoleon hat, speedos (traditional style) and some of those white wellies that fish mongers wear.

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Mitaman wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:
Mitaman wrote:

Almost certainly there will be a 'Napoleon' hat on at least one front page.

Permission to get jingoistic yet sir?

I thought we did very well, looked like a Roy Hodgson team in the second half sadly.

Permission 100% granted Albert. I expect you to walk into the Captains bar on Saturday wearing a Napoleon hat, speedos (traditional style) and some of those white wellies that fish mongers wear.


I was dusting off "once more into the breach" which of course ends "Cry God for Harry, England and St George" had we got through though I'm sure I'd have progressed to Trafalgar and Waterloo by the weekend. If you can't get jingoistic over international football, what's the point? Particularly when we're playing the French.

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Felt good to be an England fan again. Only felt that in 86, 90 and 96.

I'm happy with that. I like Southgate, carries himself well and learns from his experiences. He'll get a Euros and another world cup if he qualifies. Let's see if he can build on this success. Decent seedings in qualifiers and a confidant squad.

Back to proper football now. Bielsas Revolucion. Let's see if he gets past Xmas without car crashing

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:
Mitaman wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Permission to get jingoistic yet sir?

I thought we did very well, looked like a Roy Hodgson team in the second half sadly.

Permission 100% granted Albert. I expect you to walk into the Captains bar on Saturday wearing a Napoleon hat, speedos (traditional style) and some of those white wellies that fish mongers wear.


I was dusting off "once more into the breach" which of course ends "Cry God for Harry, England and St George" had we got through though I'm sure I'd have progressed to Trafalgar and Waterloo by the weekend. If you can't get jingoistic over international football, what's the point? Particularly when we're playing the French.

Indeed matey, indeed!

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Cutsyke wrote:

I'd have given Vardy the whole second half. If you're bringing Sterling off after it is apparent the ref's letting a lot of fouls go I'd have put him out there instead of Rashford.

Back three switched off for the second goal (watched it again, it's on Stones), let Pickford down badly. He played well but I'm not a believer just yet. Thought Rose offered more than Young and he's got a right to feel hard done by.
On the plus side, no more It's Coming Home  for you folks and no more Alexi fucking Lalas for me.

I'm not convinced by Southgate either. His substitutions did nothing to turn that game back in England's favor.

Lalas actually said some of those Croatians belong in the TDF. What a knob.

I am not sure what he was referencing, but I thought watching that the Croatians seemed to have fantastic energy reserves, and so did my two colleagues when they came into the office. We lost fair and square I know, but it just struck me as a little odd.

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Amazing how you refer to type when the pressure comes on

The possession football went out of the window once Croatia really started to press,  we needed a Modric in the middle of the park to calm it all down.  Henderson is a worker,  a jobber,  he doesn't have the skill to be Pirlo or even Jonjo f*cking Shelvey

Enjoyed it while it lasted

Now at work,  depressed and hungover - that's more like it

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Roy Keane looked disappointed for us didn’t he?

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Saw a photo of Keane laughing after the match. I assume he’d just witnessed a coach crash.

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Given that the Tour De France in the US is synonymous with Lance Armstrong it's not the sort of thing a broadcaster should be saying in a flippant manner.

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Doing the rounds..

He just got 100% of my support come Sunday...

https://images.performgroup.com/di/library/GOAL/b4/39/luka-modric-kid-zadar_1if731ceo2awb12pio9wcl46y3.jpg

The old man took his cattle up the hill that morning in December 1991, because that’s what he did every day, rain or shine, winter or summer. He took his cattle up the hill that morning, and he never came back.

A handful of men in police uniforms arrested him. Whether or not they were legally police officers was moot, and it was also irrelevant: round these parts, power came from the barrel of a gun, not from a piece of paper.

The man’s crime was the same crime it always is in places riven by sectarianism: not being one of them. Being the other. Being the enemy. His crime was nothing he’d done: it was who he was. He was Croatian, they were Serbian. That was all there was to it.

The men took him and a few others to the nearby village of Jesenice, and there they were executed. The old man left behind a family whom he loved and who loved him: none more so than his six-year-old grandson with whom he shared a name and from whom he had been practically inseparable, the old man doting on the boy, the boy hero-worshipping his grandfather.

The name they shared was Luka Modric, and this Sunday that small boy, now 32, will lead his country out in the World Cup Final.

Football uses the language of war: strikes, shots, volleys, attacks, defence, bombardment. Modric, like all his countrymen, knows the difference between the real thing and the game: knows too that in Croatia one is always bound up with the other, because between them they are the history of that small, proud nation writ large.

After his grandfather was murdered, Luka’s family’s house was burned down, and they had to live in a hotel for years: not an expensive comfortable one, but a basic, crumbling one in their hometown of Zadar. When the mortars fell, as they often did, young Luka would sit inside and wait them out: but when the all clear was given, he’d be off playing football in the hotel car park, sometimes with other kids, sometimes on his own. Anything to escape the grim, numbing reality of living in a perpetual state of conflict.

He was a small kid: too small, as it turned out, to be taken on by the local bigwigs Hadjuk Split. He ended up playing aged 18 in the Bosnian-Hercegovinan league for Zrinjski Mostar, which was where both team-mates and opponents discovered two things about this kid: that he had all the skills you could want, and that he could look after himself too.

Fast forward 15 years, through a journey that has taken him from Dinamo Zagreb via Tottenham Hotspur to Real Madrid. Even though he still looks like, in the unimprovable words of the Guardian’s Barney Ronay, ‘a little boy dressed as a witch’, he is now one of the best players in the world: a midfielder of fabulous talents, one of the very few who can bend time and space to his will.

And of all those talents, perhaps the greatest is this: that he makes others play better. When the simple pass is the best option, that’s what he plays. When he needs to hold the ball for a few moments so his team-mates can get into better positions, that’s what he does. When he has to cover back after someone else’s mistake, that’s what he does.

He’s not one of those superstars whose megawattage draws the eye and the play too, whose own presence inhibits the other ten men wearing the same shirt as him. He’s the ultimate leader precisely because he doesn’t make it all about himself. You won’t find him rolling around as though he’s just stepped on a landmine, or ripping his shirt off when he scores, or standing there looking haunted when things aren’t going his way. He leaves that kind of stuff to Neymar, to Ronaldo, to Messi. They’re all home already. He’s still there, and so are his team.

And his team love him. When he missed a penalty late in the match against Denmark, his team-mate Ivan Rakitic gathered the others round. 'Listen,' he said. 'Lukita's got us out of more messes than we can count. It's our turn to repay him.' The Croatians put the miss behind them and won the subsequent shoot-out, with Rakitic slotting the winning kick.

But if you want to know what Modric is made of, here it is: only a few minutes after missing that penalty, he'd taken another one in the shoot-out, with the Danish keeper Kaspar Schmiechel in his face trying to put him off. Did he score second time round? Of course he did.

It’s hard to understand – no, it’s easy to understand, but hard to properly FEEL – what this Croatian side mean to their country. The most famous image in English football history is that of Bobby Moore lifting the World Cup. The most famous image in Croatian football history, by contrast, is that of Zvonimir Boban taking a flying kick at a riot policeman.

It was during a match between Dinamo Zagreb and Red Star Belgrade in 1990, not long after Croatia had effectively voted for secession from Yugoslavia by electing a majority of pro-independence parties to their parliament. Boban saw the policeman mistreating Dinamo supporters during a riot and launched himself head high at the man. ‘Here I was,’ Boban said later, ‘a public face prepared to risk his life, career, and everything that fame could have brought, all because of one ideal, one cause; the Croatian cause.’

Boban was sacked from the Yugoslavia team who went to the World Cup that year. He didn’t care. In his own mind he was Croatian, not Yugoslavian, and eight years later he captained Croatia to third place in their very first World Cup. He was leader of a generation of fabulous players - Slaven Bilic, Robert Prosinecki, Davor Suker - who to this day are revered in their country.

In reaching the final, Modric’s men have already gone one better than their predecessors. It’s fitting that they’re playing France: both sides have played three group matches and three knockouts, with Croatia the stars of the group stage and France the best team in the knockouts.

The smart money has to be on France. They are a better team overall, and they have won all their knockout matches in normal time where Croatia have been taken to three consecutive extra times: an additional 90 minutes of football, the equivalent of an entire match more.

My head says a French victory, perhaps even an easy one. But my heart says a Croatian win, for the fairytale of the underdogs, for a proud people forged in war, and most of all for their remarkable captain and the old man after whom he was named.

#DoTheDai \o/

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I want them to win.

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So do I.

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x2 although I fear it might be a bridge too far.

Wonder if there'll be another wankfest over Mbappe?

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Great article that.

He is a class act as is Rakatic. Manzukic’s movement is ace.

I love Crotia, all through the world cup Ive been trading messages with a bloke we rented a flat off in Korcula. He’s a Hadjuk nutcase, ex sailor. Worked in merchant navy with 2 scousers. Swears in a scouse accent. Top bloke.

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