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space wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

You know I listen to the today program on Radio 4 most mornings, well afternoons out here. I'm pretty sure the presenters are all pro remain but are very even handed in their approach to the whole think. What is startling is they seem to pull the arms and legs off pretty much every fucker who comes on from whichever party whatever standpoint they have. The only exception somewhat bizarrely seems to be Rees Mogg who whenever I've heard him on there they can't lay a glove on him.

Personally I've always been out since 1992 after the sovereignty grab. Never gave a toss about migration, I'd actually happily ship some of the white British the opposite direction. What I'd not factored in was the inability of our politicians to do their fucking job or implement a plebiscite in any coherent manner.

This.  Maastricht was Thatcher trying to write herself into the history book at the expense of her country.  The fact that the current crop of coffee table socialists are behind every word of it is quite frankly stunning.

That. There's always someone who has to bring up Thatcher, isn't there? lol

Except. Thatcher did not have a hard on for Maastricht, not even a semi: "Because I believe in these principles so deeply I cannot support the ratification of the Maastricht treaty".

https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/108305

And even if she did, as she wasn't even an MP at that point she couldn't have voted for or against it, so I'm not sure why she's being dragged in at this point.

Perhaps it was all Blair's fault?

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The EU doesn't do whats best for the individual worker.  It does what is best for the multinationals that lobby it's leadership.  Hence "Good for the economy" really means "Good for multinationals" and no longer means that the bloke working in a factory is better off.  In fact, more likely the opposite. 

There's no point maximising your GDP if profit makes it out of the country and into a Saudi sovereign wealth fund in one hop.

Whereas the current British political and economic system is squarely behind the worker isn't it?  It doesn't have any truck with multinational lobbying does it?

If there's one group in British society that the Brexiteers are crusading on behalf of, it sure as hell isn't "the blokes working in the factory".

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Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

Apart from the fact that periodically the Tories fuck things up so badly because of their rampant greed that a Labour government is absolutely necessary.

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Another important difference being that govts last for 4 years or so whereas Brexit is a calamity forever. Fail to see the humour really.

Snatching misery from the jaws of glory since, ooooooh, 1973?

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Neither do I!

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Had to laugh at that Julia Hartley-Brewer tweeting Agoda after sending a scanned copy of her passport and credit card to Agoda and thinking she'd been scammed and all the Remainer replies..

This one made some wee come out..

https://image.ibb.co/dty3kK/Screen_Shot_2018_09_04_at_3_06_35_pm.png

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king of the slums wrote:

Had to laugh at that Julia Hartley-Brewer tweeting Agoda after sending a scanned copy of her passport and credit card to Agoda and thinking she'd been scammed and all the Remainer replies..

This one made some wee come out..

https://image.ibb.co/dty3kK/Screen_Shot_2018_09_04_at_3_06_35_pm.png


Just read the replies.  Some really funny ones.

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2016.
Leavers:  We want a democratic say in our relationship with the EU.
Remainers:  Nah.  We're good. 

2018:
Remainers:  We want a democratic say in our relationship with the EU.
Leavers:  Nah.  We're good.

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albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

And this present gov. has not fucked things up economically?  Jesus.  The only reason more people are not openly rioting is that seemingly no journalists or main stream media outlets will equate lack of policing, crime figures, shit NHS, education up the shitter to austerity and a programme of devaluing public services as orchestrated by the Tories.  An economic fuck up in my book as they refuse to try and bolster the treasury by any other means than taking away from the electorate and taxing the fuck out of us and not corporations. 

We are being mugged off and told to fear the 'brown person'. 

The country is run by idiots and the vast majority of the populace are even bigger idiots.

We are all fucked.

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danpiesley wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

And this present gov. has not fucked things up economically?  Jesus.  The only reason more people are not openly rioting is that seemingly no journalists or main stream media outlets will equate lack of policing, crime figures, shit NHS, education up the shitter to austerity and a programme of devaluing public services as orchestrated by the Tories.  An economic fuck up in my book as they refuse to try and bolster the treasury by any other means than taking away from the electorate and taxing the fuck out of us and not corporations. 

We are being mugged off and told to fear the 'brown person'. 

The country is run by idiots and the vast majority of the populace are even bigger idiots.

We are all fucked.

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Chopper Read wrote:
danpiesley wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

And this present gov. has not fucked things up economically?  Jesus.  The only reason more people are not openly rioting is that seemingly no journalists or main stream media outlets will equate lack of policing, crime figures, shit NHS, education up the shitter to austerity and a programme of devaluing public services as orchestrated by the Tories.  An economic fuck up in my book as they refuse to try and bolster the treasury by any other means than taking away from the electorate and taxing the fuck out of us and not corporations. 

We are being mugged off and told to fear the 'brown person'. 

The country is run by idiots and the vast majority of the populace are even bigger idiots.

We are all fucked.

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Felt a bit sorry for her yesterday, she was indeed made come across in a less than flattering light (putting it mildly)with these so called negotiations, if that is indeed what they are supposed to be. Things are starting to hot-up...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … urg-ambush

Edited to say, I bet those smaller EU member economies must be shitting it. If the EU is going to screw the fifth largest economy in the world for wanting out, imagine what fate awaits them if they ever want to leave? Its beginning to look like the Hotel California..

Also, I was one for wanting us to remain, I firmly believed that we were better off in than out. I just don't like bullies, and this has more than a whaff of it.

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danpiesley wrote:
albert herbert hawkins wrote:

Womans Hour this morning on Radio 4, couple of panellist discussing breakfast...

Panelist 1. "we should have another vote as Brexit will be bad for the country economically"

Panelist 2. "so's a Labour government but we don't have another election every time they're voted in do we?"

Made me laugh out loud.

And this present gov. has not fucked things up economically?  Jesus.  The only reason more people are not openly rioting is that seemingly no journalists or main stream media outlets will equate lack of policing, crime figures, shit NHS, education up the shitter to austerity and a programme of devaluing public services as orchestrated by the Tories.  An economic fuck up in my book as they refuse to try and bolster the treasury by any other means than taking away from the electorate and taxing the fuck out of us and not corporations. 

We are being mugged off and told to fear the 'brown person'. 

The country is run by idiots and the vast majority of the populace are even bigger idiots.

We are all fucked.

Yep and when McDonnell talks about a national investment bank and rebuilding national assets and normal levels of corporation tax to replenish the coffers in the right way the media scream "Marxist".  We are fucked,this electorate will return a Tory government regardless of how much they fuck it up and lie about it.

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Can't abide Ian Duncan-Smith but for once he seems to have nailed it, there's more than a whiff of the EU playing the schoolyard bully now that we're nearly at crunch time.
Macron showing his true colours now also,the cunt.

Still feel that everyone loses in all of this,not just the UK.

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Old Wharfedaler wrote:

Can't abide Ian Duncan-Smith but for once he seems to have nailed it, there's more than a whiff of the EU playing the schoolyard bully now that we're nearly at crunch time.
Macron showing his true colours now also,the cunt.

Still feel that everyone loses in all of this,not just the UK.

What I have always hated about the EU is that at its core it is a protection racket ran on behalf of big business.  Since the Brexit vote that is exactly how it has acted.

Most people didn't want to leave the EU, they just wanted the EU to reform and stop it's march towards the EU republic.   But that wasn't an option was it?  The only person who tried to placate those that wanted out was pig-fucker and he was sent home with a flea in his ear.

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space wrote:
Old Wharfedaler wrote:

Can't abide Ian Duncan-Smith but for once he seems to have nailed it, there's more than a whiff of the EU playing the schoolyard bully now that we're nearly at crunch time.
Macron showing his true colours now also,the cunt.

Still feel that everyone loses in all of this,not just the UK.

What I have always hated about the EU is that at its core it is a protection racket ran on behalf of big business.  Since the Brexit vote that is exactly how it has acted.

Most people didn't want to leave the EU, they just wanted the EU to reform and stop it's march towards the EU republic.   But that wasn't an option was it?  The only person who tried to placate those that wanted out was pig-fucker and he was sent home with a flea in his ear.

True but the big problem Carmeron had was that he didn't know or didn't care how the "laur clarses" felt.  Not his fault entirely how they felt but he had no idea and assumed that a Referendum would put it to bed with a minimum 45/55 remain vote.

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Reggie Perrin wrote:
space wrote:
Old Wharfedaler wrote:

Can't abide Ian Duncan-Smith but for once he seems to have nailed it, there's more than a whiff of the EU playing the schoolyard bully now that we're nearly at crunch time.
Macron showing his true colours now also,the cunt.

Still feel that everyone loses in all of this,not just the UK.

What I have always hated about the EU is that at its core it is a protection racket ran on behalf of big business.  Since the Brexit vote that is exactly how it has acted.

Most people didn't want to leave the EU, they just wanted the EU to reform and stop it's march towards the EU republic.   But that wasn't an option was it?  The only person who tried to placate those that wanted out was pig-fucker and he was sent home with a flea in his ear.

True but the big problem Carmeron had was that he didn't know or didn't care how the "laur clarses" felt.  Not his fault entirely how they felt but he had no idea and assumed that a Referendum would put it to bed with a minimum 45/55 remain vote.

If you read the Independent or the Guardian they still don't have a clue what happened.  The patter is still that it was all about the lie on the side of a bus, the colour of passports and foreigners skin tones.  No one can quite get their heads around the fact that a large part of the country have a serious issue about how the EU is ran and the direction it is taking.

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The problem with the EU commission is one of accountability, or lack of. Macron/ Merkel et al have to be a little bit careful how they treat another sovereign nation, as we have the ability to affect their own politics and their electability. The commission on the other hand, have no such concerns as they are far less vulnerable from political attack, as they are unelected effectively. They can go for May’s throat unimpeded.

I got the chance to ask ‘Dr. Fox’ about the UK corporation tax ‘trump card’ when he visited Tokyo recently. My point being that should the UK decide to make itself a very large tax haven, we could effectively fuck them. His answer? ‘’Well yes, that is one of the levers at our disposal’’. I nearly laughed out loud. That is EXACTLY what they will do. Likely at the expense of Ireland, sadly. They must be very nervous at this juncture.

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