cordshoes Same can be said of immigrants in general across many parts of the US. I knew a non union contractor who paid his crew well, a mix of Irish, South American, lot of Ecuadorians and Nigerians, plus a few lads from Tibet and Nepal ( he hired through recommendation, you work for me, do you know any carpenters looking for a job). He was finding it harder and harder to win when bidding on jobs because another contractor had a Chinese crew who were working for between 33% and 50% less than he was paying his guys.