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doggybag

space
I find that to be a very good question/observation. If Russia are involved, where's the muscle?

Travis_Bickle

Djpekingman children executed in front of their families, butchering young people at a festival, parading naked corpses,, killing the elderly, livestreaming murders. And you still can't condemn it. Un-fucking-believable.

Djpekingman

Travis_Bickle Of course I fucking condemn it. Don't put words into my mouth you wiggy wigheaded mcwigface.

Raposa

Some pretty grim footage about.

Placid

space it’s being said they were using Iranian drones to take out armour using Ukraine war tactics.

So just to re cap.

Its Iran with EU weapons to make it look like the Ukrainians and also using Ukrainian Drone tactics.

@space Do you think maybe you spend too much time focusing on all this subterfuge via twitter etc?

space

Placid This is all gleaned from the OSINT sources ive been following for years. The Ukrainian sourced weapons thing is what was being pushed by the Russian media and troll farms. Its verified that Hamas have been visiting Russias top table. The Warner stuff is guess work but there's receipts for most of the rest.

space

The Russian claims that Ukraine has been selling on US and EU/UK weapons has been going on for some time. They have been "found" and geolocated to most battlefields over the last 2 years. Hence my point that them being found in Isreal now is just Putins jammy fingerprints on this somewhere.

Reggie_Perrin

My youngest was talking about joining the Army. Told him to have a rethink.

cordshoes

on a MUFC site, populated by aging white men, and it is very tetchy.

When I pointed out that the Israelis are not the good guys in this longstanding story, just a different set of cunts/murderers to the obvious cunts/murderers, I was met with some strong accusations of being anti-Semitic, despite me never mentioning Jews.

And I thought this was not good from the BBC, given the sensitivity of the situation:

The BBC, in a tweet, had used ‘died’ about the people in Gaza and ‘killed’ about the people in Israel.

Djpekingman

cordshoes This sort of thing has been going on for years. The US push the Israelis good, Palestinian bad line and the mugs suck it up. There may be 1000 dead in Israel, there'll be nearer 10k Palestinian (many of them innocent oldies, women and children) dead by the time this little tete a tete is over...

albert_herbert_hawkins

cordshoes pop back on the MUFC site again and point out that the Palestinians are also semites before signing off with a toodle pip.

Djpekingman

Djpekingman BBC chirping that Israel are claiming they have recovered 1500 'Hamas fighters' already. I wonder how many of those were real Hamas fighters....

Travis_Bickle

90Piesanhour I've said before and will say again, what is happening needs to stop.
What baffled and disturbed me when I started this thread was the speed with which it became Israel's fault. Because if you read the first 20 or so posts that is the only conclusion you can draw.
People were being raped and butchered and we had posts like this....

doggybag How did Netanyahu expect his idea of 'democracy' to be received by the Palestinians? Blind, stupid, mad fucker.

Djpekingman If I say the Israeli government and Likud are a bunch of utter cunts and have been since 1948 am I being anti semitic or just anti murdering cunt?

Djpekingman 75 years and counting. Until the likes of the warmongering Netanyahu and his moneyed US backers are gone there will be no end.

Djpekingman Hamas are the result of 75 years of disenfranchisement and oppression. You kill innocent civilians indiscriminately, steal their land, destroy their houses, lock them up in refugee camps, deny basic human rights and living conditions to millions of people over an extended period of time WTF do you expect? Hamas are not right and will win few friends with this action, but its no surprise they react like this when they known nothing else for generations. The Israeli government sowed these seeds and they are reaping what they have sowed.

Djpekingman BBC chirping that Israel are claiming they have recovered 1500 'Hamas fighters' already. I wonder how many of those were real Hamas fighters....

There were others. That baffles me.
And I'll leave it there.

cordshoes

As well as the Russian angle, I bet the Tufton Street think tanks are already working on how to use this in the UK against Labour.
Given their panic over the polling forecasts, let's just see what happens.
Corbyn may again become an influential Labour spokesman overnight on this subject, in their PR eyes

Young_Marxist_at_Tescos

cordshoes Definitely something in this. All the ex-RCP cunts on Twatter (Fox, Furedi, Heartfield) are lining up to praise Israel’s reaction

Placid

cordshoes As well as the Russian angle, I bet the Tufton Street think tanks are already working on how to use this in the UK against Labour.

Starmer and Labour look lke they're pre empting this with the rheotroic coming him today.
What a world we live in

cordshoes

Young_Marxist_at_Tescos
Think there is an idea for a 2024 Tory best of:
Top Ten lies, embellishments and exaggeration of irrelevant issues.

It is coming our way so may as well do our own.
Could be a separate thread or use an existing politics one.

space

Djpekingman

space Well there's shock. To be fair on the Israelis it probably didn't need much to turn the rest of it to rubble as they've bombed the shit out it pretty consistently since '67. And denied the Palestinians the means to rebuild.

space

Djpekingman What you're not seeing on the TV news are the telegram posts of Palestinian parents digging their dead children out of piles of rubble or the Gaza hospitals that have been targets of missiles and artillery. The answer to Hamas war crimes has been a shower of war crimes in the other direction.

I'm not a supporter of either of the opposing political/military forces - just fucked off that it's the poorest and most vulnerable that are going to be on the receiving end of the most brutal punishment beating imaginable.

Netanyahu is probably wanking in the shower at the thought of what he intends for Gaza.

hendersonjones

Beheading Babies , ffs sick bastards

Travis_Bickle

hendersonjones yeah but Israel started it apparently....

Placid

hendersonjones Beheading Babies , ffs sick bastards

Where have you heard this?

hendersonjones

Travis_Bickle
50% of people living in Gaza are children it’s Horror that’s off the scale , i really don’t understand some human beings

Djpekingman

Travis_Bickle When you dehumanise a population with a few nutters for several generations what the fuck do you expect? It's horrendous, but it's no surprise. More to point the Israelis voted consistently for several elections to appoint a rightwing reactionary nut job. When you have no hope at the bottom end of that relationship you really don't give a fuck any more. The world, but especially the US should be fucking ashamed of themselves for letting this happen, but instead of pleading for calm they put fuel on the fire by sending one side even more arms. Shares in the military industrial complex must be going through the fucking roof.

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