General Election 2024

Reggie_Perrin

Mega_Armageddon_Chickens yeah, not sure how this is conflicts with what I posted though.

space

Reggie_Perrin No actual details of how anything will be fixed, just a promise. That's sooooo Labour. Magic wand politics at it's best.

Reggie_Perrin

space this wasn't from Labour. Can't wait for your Greens to take power and change everything.

Travis_Bickle

space 'sooooo Labour'
Council housing.
The NHS.
The welfare state.
Abolition of the death penalty.
The legalisation of abortion.
The legalisation of homosexuality.
Legislation to tackle racial discrimination.
Equal pay.
Comprehensive education.
National minimum wage.
Devolution in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Working tax credits.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy.
Record investment in public services.
The Equality Act.
The Human Rights Act.
Civil partnerships.

That's a big fucking wand.....

doggybag

Mega_Armageddon_Chickens There are very few out there who seem to believe in anything past themselves and I have enough problems dealing with those types at work.

Good point, well made. Starmer's millstone in a nutshell, if you'll excuse the mix.

Djpekingman

Reggie_Perrin You mean 'with their vast experience of governing a country'? Everything will be tickety boo July 5th and global warming will cease.

cordshoes

Mega_Armageddon_Chickens I would "sort of" agree with that, but would tweak it.
I know what she is AGAINST as that is what I see/hear. I just don't really know what she is FOR.

And that "Black people getting more racism against them than Jews, Irish, Travellers etc." articles that she wrote is one of the the Tories best policies in this election.

Reggie_Perrin

cordshoes I think her point was that it's different and you can hide your "otherness" if you want to unless you skin colour is non-white. She's a campaigner and this was theoretical dogma best saved for private party conversations. Her not knowing the potential blowback meant she showed she lacked judgement. IMHO

Reggie_Perrin

Djpekingman something like that. I don't understand voting for them when they can't win. Maybe a small chance in one seat. Under FPTP we have two choices. Tories or Labour.

space

Reggie_Perrin Under FPTP we have two choices. Tories or Labour.

My very point. Nothing is more important to either party than the next election.

Reggie_Perrin

Travis_Bickle and the Tories voted against the vast majority of that

Travis_Bickle

"Diane Abbott was elected in 1987, the first black woman MP. She's been a trailblazer She has carved a path for other people to come into politics and public life. The whip has obviously been restored to her now, and she is free to go forward as a Labour candidate"
Starmer today.

space

Travis_Bickle “Diane Abbott was elected in 1987, the first black woman MP. She’s been a trailblazer She has carved a path for other people to come into politics and public life. The whip has obviously been restored to her now, and she is free to go forward as a Labour candidate”
Starmer today.

Looks like Abbott has got away with again. Unlike the other pro-Palastinian candidates that are being moved aside for Pro-Israel Starmer faithfull. Wonder how many women of colour can be removed from the rolls and replaced with white middle class men before anyone cries foul.

Travis_Bickle

I should add that, as far as I'm aware, the Tories are 191 candidates short with a week to go before it's too late. Strong and stable.

Anchor

Travis_Bickle I stand by my musings. He was a Tory MP and now stands with Labour. An ideological switch I can't comprehend.

Travis_Bickle

Anchor I struggle with it too in many ways. But a huge proportion of the electorate make such a switch every four or five years. And that helps Labour win.

Anchor

Travis_Bickle Agree but they are chasing personal gain. In my experience. Selfish ends.

My nephew is earning 100k a year and is Tory. Because he's shit scared labour might take 20 quid a month of him yet moans like fuck his autistic son can't get a specialist school place.

I struggle to get through to people like this much less swing voters. I vote labour as I care about others but my tether is frayed beyond belief.

I'm waffling now.

Djpekingman

Anchor You're right. There's no reasoning with these morons.

space

Anchor My nephew is earning 100k a year and is Tory. Because he’s shit scared labour might take 20 quid a month of him yet moans like fuck his autistic son can’t get a specialist school place.

As someone who has tried to get assistance for an autistic child during both the last labour government and this Tory government I can with some authority tell you that both were equally fucking useless.

Djpekingman

Djpekingman But, anything that removes these tory cunts has to be a good thing.

Anchor

Djpekingman my only real feelings of hope. Get them gone

I just want the lies to stop.

Then I look at Wes Streeting and my blood boils.

Flaneur

He does do that back-and-forth does Starmer.

Travis_Bickle

Flaneur he might win us a working majority after our worst electoral drubbing in living memory.

CharlieG

doggybag

CharlieG
Ah Sam, 'What a story! God send I don't make a balls of it.'
An old and compassionate soul he had.

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