Mitaman
It won't stop with just Crimeria of course, that was his safe'ish test shot. Seems that that all went well, so now onto phase 2. As soon dithering Barack decided to let Assad cross the uncrossable red-line that was Putin's green light. This is being watched closely by China as they look to regain 'lost' islands in East Asia and the South China Sea.BTW. If he wants to annex Scotland he should go ahead, they are just one currency short of indepedence..
spacecadetdave
Anyone here not worried by NATO quietly building up troops in Eastern Europe?
Loose_Lips
Is this still going on? Thought we'd sorted this.
spacecadetdave
That's what I thought. IT might just be that it's not being reported anymore. But NATO have cut all ties to Russia and moving forces into eastern europe.Apparantly.
Mitaman
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gore
Or like Stalin when they divided up Poland?Bit like Czechoslovakia was, and the UK is to a fair few here (and in Ireland) the Ukraine is a made up state. And just like the breakup of the Soviet Union was a rejection of the centre, this is a rejection of the Nazi's in the Western half, by the east... like when Slovakia broke off. Is Putin involved, of course - but it's hardly a prelude for Lebensraum. More like payback for taking advantage of a pissed up Yeltsen. And where in this do you hold to account the machinations of the US and the West seeking to take over the Ukraine by moving it into their sphere of influence? Or with Kennedy and Cuba and his attempt to liberate back then?For all the propaganda it just seems like a realigning of the state to the nation. Its just the west doesn't like the answer to its outcome.
Mitaman
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gore
No one has the appetite.
MolOverBeethoven
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CharlieG
Christ!
MolOverBeethoven
Ukrainian Interior Ministry adviser: Malaysian plane was brought down by a ground-to-air missile & all 295 people on board are dead.
CharlieG
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Mitaman
It just got very serious indeed. The US, will know within 50 metres where that GTA missile came from but have made no mention as yet. It was shot from a very serious piece of modern kit, presumably fired by a highly trained person of said piece of kit. Is this just a very serious fuck-up?
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gore
And of course there no truth in the rumour that the Ukrainian defence minister had a statement good to go before the plane was shot down. But that's just dirty propaganda.Us fighters for freedom don't need to create a situation as we're the good guys doing the Lords work.
king_of_the_slums
One thing's for sure, the photos that have come out of this terrorist attack have been nothing but horrific. Those poor people left to rot in a field as these big men postulate and plan their next move. The SAS and Dutch equivalent should have been sent in immediately, with the blessing of the Ukraine, and then the investigators and Ineterpol given the chance to do their work.
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gore
No one is going to do anything aside from hot air and a few meaningless sanctions. Germany is hostage to energy needs, the UK is hostage to the capital it's laundering and France is flogging to many arms. So the US will punish them all by more fines of state owned banks to make themselves feel better and apply it's usual double standards to the game. Meanwhile ISIS, that CIA trained and funded freedom fighters - have issued an ultimatum for all Christians to convert, pay a gold fine (and have no protection of Sharia law) or be killed. Not surprising they're all doing a runner. And the slaughter goes on in Gaza. Putin, what a cunt.
luxury_scruff
The worst thing I have ever read about in my lifetime.Soldiers slitting babies throats on buses because they were crying. And the image of the Dutch putting their headphones in.