Tommy "The Gammon" Robinson.

Foxy_Dread

Thinking about this today, if all immigrants were to be expelled by a party sympathetic to Tommy's dreams, it would absolutely crash the economy.

Houses flooding on the market, would lead to a price crash and to private equity funds hoovering them up at the discounted prices.

Shitloads of demand would exit the economy. Shitloads of skills would exit also.Then there would be the political fall out on the international stage.

Even if the political will was there, the economic and social costs would dwarf Brexit by a mile.

space

Foxy_Dread Can you imagine the horror? All that upward wage pressure for the lowest earners? Companies having to train staff and then pay them a living wage? Houses put back into the reaches of the average wage earner after this artificially inflated bubble economy disappears?

What a fucking disaster.

Low wage workforce benefits the share holders of the companies that employ them - no one else - and drains the economy for everyone else. I'd rather have a high wage economy like Denmark's than the corporation led one that we have. But I'm a socialist and I think a shop worker and a factory worker should have a shot at a mortgage, but what would I know.

Sardine-Tree

Foxy_Dread
And where is the line drawn? I’m from Viking heritage. Am I an ‘immigrant’?.

Ken_Lobster

Foxy_Dread
That is very true .
I’ve have had polish people in my flats for years now .
I’ve relied on them .
If they all went I would probably end up selling at low price once the market got flooded .

Placid

Ken_Lobster calling my daughter a racist for observing that her Chinese friend drank a lot of green tea .

Ok ok people, lets just back up here a little bit.

Ken, please can we have some background, character description and outcome?

Ken_Lobster

Placid
Sorry
Was watching turkey play .
Basically daughters mate said to my daughter you drink a lot of cranberry .
She says back you drink a lot of green tea .
It was banter amongst two friends at 6 form college.
Teacher overheard my daughter say it and called her a racist in front of class.
Later she informed we don’t identify any traits of non uk people as it’s not PC.
Daughter was suspended for 3 days for investigation .
She never went back

Foxy_Dread

space I think the venture capitalists and private equity funds would mop up housing, some of them are already heavily invested in housing and would want to protect and expand on their current position. Golden goose and all that.

Wages etc, I agree there would be an upward pressure on wages, but don't you think the initial shock would be so great that there would be mayhem.

The economy is that weak it wouldn't be able to cope with the wage demands. Wage pressures going up whilst consumer demand has just crashed how would that work out?

Then there is the health service, thousands of workers lost from an already depleted work force. The Funeral industry would be booming.

I don't see it being a boom time for the working man.

Sardine-Tree

Djpekingman
‘Gammonrati’! Crikey, I’m an old aged white man - and definitely need a new dictionary!!

Foxy_Dread

Sardine-Tree I'm wondering the same thing, Irish of less than 200 years here.

Raposa

Ken_Lobster
That’s shocking Ken.
Did your daughter’s mate not back her up?
I’m assuming she took it as the banter it was intended to be?

space

Ken_Lobster Jesus. If the footage of a drunk me with a lampshade on my head doing the "Ying Tong Yiddle I Po" song ever surfaces I'll be cancelled for sure.

space

Ken_Lobster That is very true .
I’ve have had polish people in my flats for years now .
I’ve relied on them .
If they all went I would probably end up selling at low price once the market got flooded .

Everyone wants affordable housing but no one wants their house to lose value. That's the conundrum. If you want the working class to be able to afford housing then how else can it be done other than a huge rise in supply and a subsequent reset in price?*

*There's a knighthood and a nobel prize for anyone with an answer to that one.

Ken_Lobster

Raposa
Yes she did .
They are still friends now .
Fully backed her up .
They weren’t interested and refused to discuss it with me .
It also obviously had a negative impact on her friend also ..

doggybag

space
Well, the houses would have to remain intact so War is out for the purposes of this challenge.
Another Pandemic. ? The Methane bomb? Vast fires causing poisonous gases that choke and kill a lot of people as well as blocking out the sun and depleting our food supply. And no-one need do anything as one of them is coming at us for sure.
I'll have the Nobel prize please and a super swishy sticker or whatever that kid said in the advert.

Djpekingman

Return multiple owner owned properties to the public sector with proper rent controls?

fulmine

What’s really worrying isn’t little Tommy and all his tight-jeaned mates, it’s the complete breakdown of hope and trust among the middle classes. Really unfashionable thing to be saying, I know, but all that resourcefulness, that aspiration, those passions, the goodness actually, has now totally gone. Yes, a lot of that came from privilege, but it’s not a good situation. The centre isn’t holding, there’s no trust in the establishment, in public services, in the idea of further education, etc. And I think you can see that in the erosion of everyday decency. Someone needs to grab hold of the mainstream and offer some reassurance to people. That won’t come from pathetic scaremongering. People are generally OK, they’re not racist trolls shouting untruths on social media. They just want a bit of hope, really.

cordshoes

fulmine Isn't this where Starmer is trying/hoping to be?

Travis_Bickle

fulmine good analysis. There's definitely been a loosening of the ties that bind and, at the risk of sound horribly old-fashioned, of some of the standards we aspired and adhered to.

Under-the-ground

fulmine just read that. Spot on.

What boggles my mind is we went through a pandemic. Doesn’t get much cataclysmic than that. And we are going down the same path.

People just ain’t no good as the song goes

fulmine

cordshoes Yeah, but with “ realistic hope”. An oxymoron, when you think about it.

Foxy_Dread

If only we had a mature responsible press. It would be a start.

They are a poison.

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