YoungParisian_inExile Ajax, I’ll grant you, but Dortmund is a stretch. They’ve been a disappointment in terms of winning trophies since Klopp left, and largely underachieved.
To counter the structured approach, Alonso at Leverkusen shows the transformative benefit of the appointment of a great coach. As and when he moves on, I don’t see them maintaining current standards.
With Ajax, are we seeing the end of their ‘legacy’? Much like we saw with Liverpool at the end of the ‘boot room’ period post Dalglish?
In English football, sustained periods of success for a particular club have usually coincided with a specific manager, with the 1970s/80s exception of Liverpool.
1960s/70s Leeds - Revie
70s/80s Forest - Clough
90s/00s Man U - Ferguson
90s/00s Arsenal - Wenger
Chelsea have done it with various different managers but that’s also coincided with them until recently outspending everyone.
City’s recent dominance has as much to do with Guardiola than the monies they’ve spent.
Bayern would be another good example but again have the last couple of seasons seen their model unravelling? A decade of dominance and success with coaches/managers swapping in/out, appears to have ended, Dortmund blew the League last season, Leverkusen didn’t this year. Kompany doesn’t look a particularly strong choice for their coach either, so no guarantees that these least two seasons are a blip.