Mitaman they also seem to be clouding the electoral water with groups within the party as well. Always why do they need ERG, Nat-Con rallies and now New Cons?

Baffling that 33p (inflation) Lee is the deputy chair of the actual Tories but also part of the New Con group. Make your mind up you horrible thick cunt.

      Reggie_Perrin they also seem to be clouding the electoral water with groups within the party as well. Always why do they need ERG, Nat-Con rallies and now New Cons?

      Baffling that 33p (inflation) Lee is the deputy chair of the actual Tories but also part of the New Con group. Make your mind up you horrible thick cunt.

      Interesting that you complain more about them putting "New" in front of their name than you do them putting "National" in front of it. Do I need to go through the historical precedents of each?

      One is a Blairite rebranding and the other is the next step to handing out daggers to a uniformed youth wing.

          space well since I'm not "complaining more" about that I have no clue what you are talking about.

          I guess Blair was rebranding following nearly 2 decades out of power and these are splintering/rebranding whilst still in power and being there for 13 years already.

            Djpekingman Why bother?

            I'll go first.

            While not commenting on the main point of Reg's post I expected my acceptance to be implicit. I was then advancing the discussion by bringing up the fact that people had seemed to be glossing over the extreme right wing overtone of the "National Conservatism" group.

            I "got the point". I was advancing something else. This is how discussion evolves.

            Wanker.

                space you said "you" referring to me, that I was doing that. I wasn't, I was commenting on the plethora if names they now seem to be using. If "people" (implying many) are glossing over the use of "National Conservatism" then I agree with you, it's significance is not lost on me at all but it's a different point to the one I was making.

                  Here we go again ….. 🥱

                  Looks like Chernobyl Womble could be getting his comeuppance. Bastard at last . Let’s hope it is all of them . Take them to the tyburn tree

                    CharlieG as usual The Mail is talking shit, his own sister seems to have dropped him in it. 🤣

                      Carrie currently expecting her 3rd child and his 8th (at least). She is one sick puppy, and he is a prime candidate for brick based castration. I wonder how much of support for that lot comes out of the public purse, given he’s already screwing (pun not intended) the legal aid budget?

                      A lot, he'll get the yearly bung that all ex PM's get.

                      He won't be without money. There's lots of people who'd like to hear/see the clown.