Transfer Rumours/Signed

sock_tag

says an initial loan until 25th Feb here
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120120/delph-returns-to-united_2247585_2582890

albert_herbert_hawkins

Reggie Perrin wrote
albert herbert hawkins wrote
Reggie Perrin wroteDelph has signed until end of season.

So, a better player, who's not injured, in on loan until the end of Howson's contract, plus a bag of money. I'm struggling to have an issue with this personally.

Somebody made the point that we'd somehow fucked up on Beckford and Gradel contractually, at the point of purchase Beckford was a non league player and Gradel a very young and insignificant Leicester reserve.

AHH, I'm with you brother. Beckford was and is a player who has pace and can finish but when he went we got goals from all over the place as you have to play a certain way to benefit from his talents. Gradel was as libel to get sent off as he was to score a goal sometomes and Pugh is a much more solid if not as spectacular player with bags of experience, much of it int he Prem. Schmeichel / Lonergan - meh!

Two players who should be playing and we have suffered for their being out are OB and Bruce.

Welcome aboard the good ship "all is not lost " let's hope we get a couple more in and Grayson can confound his critics by setting us up for a win at kick off as opposed to after half time when we're trailing.

old_codger

Would be nice to see the team be up for the win in both halves of the match for a change :D

gorefidel

albert herbert hawkins wrote
Reggie Perrin wrote
albert herbert hawkins wrote

So, a better player, who's not injured, in on loan until the end of Howson's contract, plus a bag of money. I'm struggling to have an issue with this personally.

Somebody made the point that we'd somehow fucked up on Beckford and Gradel contractually, at the point of purchase Beckford was a non league player and Gradel a very young and insignificant Leicester reserve.

AHH, I'm with you brother. Beckford was and is a player who has pace and can finish but when he went we got goals from all over the place as you have to play a certain way to benefit from his talents. Gradel was as libel to get sent off as he was to score a goal sometomes and Pugh is a much more solid if not as spectacular player with bags of experience, much of it int he Prem. Schmeichel / Lonergan - meh!

Two players who should be playing and we have suffered for their being out are OB and Bruce.

Welcome aboard the good ship "all is not lost " let's hope we get a couple more in and Grayson can confound his critics by setting us up for a win at kick off as opposed to after half time when we're trailing.

This is ace. Which one of you gave Goebbels the idea of blaming the Jews for the Reichstag fire? :lol:

Reggie_Perrin

gorefidel wrote
albert herbert hawkins wrote
Reggie Perrin wrote

AHH, I'm with you brother. Beckford was and is a player who has pace and can finish but when he went we got goals from all over the place as you have to play a certain way to benefit from his talents. Gradel was as libel to get sent off as he was to score a goal sometomes and Pugh is a much more solid if not as spectacular player with bags of experience, much of it int he Prem. Schmeichel / Lonergan - meh!

Two players who should be playing and we have suffered for their being out are OB and Bruce.

Welcome aboard the good ship "all is not lost " let's hope we get a couple more in and Grayson can confound his critics by setting us up for a win at kick off as opposed to after half time when we're trailing.

This is ace. Which one of you gave Goebbels the idea of blaming the Jews for the Reichstag fire? :lol:

Err...me?

albert_herbert_hawkins

gorefidel wrote
albert herbert hawkins wrote
Reggie Perrin wrote

AHH, I'm with you brother. Beckford was and is a player who has pace and can finish but when he went we got goals from all over the place as you have to play a certain way to benefit from his talents. Gradel was as libel to get sent off as he was to score a goal sometomes and Pugh is a much more solid if not as spectacular player with bags of experience, much of it int he Prem. Schmeichel / Lonergan - meh!

Two players who should be playing and we have suffered for their being out are OB and Bruce.

Welcome aboard the good ship "all is not lost " let's hope we get a couple more in and Grayson can confound his critics by setting us up for a win at kick off as opposed to after half time when we're trailing.

This is ace. Which one of you gave Goebbels the idea of blaming the Jews for the Reichstag fire? :lol:

so are you Hess in this scenario, you turn coat!

gorefidel

Not a turn coat at all. I am not a huge Howson fan.

I just think its a fire sale. And the money will go offshore not the team. Selling him and using the money to upgrade would be different.

I think they have cashflow problems as mentioned before

I think Grayson is average and we have plateaued. Howson can see that. He's still young and Norwich is a step up. Its a poor move career wise, but a good one for money at this point.

I agree with Leb I think he'd have stayed if he saw possibilities and ambition - don't think he did

I find the Delph thing laughable. But you can see the outrage crumbling already.

Just add Smith and 'In Grayson we trust' will be back again.

While the club dies slowly.

But painting it and the previous player fuck ups a postives when its all down to a season by season approach is wrong. Its just how they are.

Small time chiselers

Placid

Reggie Perrin wroteDelph has signed until end of season.

no he hasnt

albert_herbert_hawkins

Well the next eleven days will tell in terms of depatures. Let's see where we are in early Feb in terms of squad and league position.

Deadly_Doug's_Love_Child

Great move for Howson. Not so sure about our end of this exchange.

Howson gets a step up, but not too high. Norwich have done themselves loads of credit this season and they're the type of outfit where Howson can realistically compete for a first team place. Norwich have a some good young players and a great manager so should do well over the next couple of years. Howson can hang onto the back of this train and see where it takes him. Noriwch need to keep hold of Lambert though.

If Howson can establish himself at Carrow Rd - and there's no reason why he shouldn't, Johnson has played a decent amount of games - he'll be set up for a bigger move when he's nearing his prime, if he wants it.

Am less sure about Delph. Hasn't done it at Villa, rarely gets a run of games, often seems to get subbed when he does play and has had some injuries. Wonder where his confidence levels are compared to a couple of years ago?. Time will tell but just hope the dials on the crowd's expectations are set at the right level and Delph gets time to find his feet.

Loose_Lips

gorefidel wroteIts a poor move career wise, but a good one for money at this point.

It good on both points Gore. Norwich have turned a few heads and he isn't Arsenal material so in many ways it's almost a perfect career move.

gorefidel

Loose Lips wrote
gorefidel wroteIts a poor move career wise, but a good one for money at this point.

It good on both points Gore. Norwich have turned a few heads and he isn't Arsenal material so in many ways it's almost a perfect career move.

We'll see. They have that first season hype going for them. Lambert is the new tan free Brown.

They have no benefactor - Bolton with no money. So once the agents and the players get through with the leveling up the money, they'll need more cash than they will generate

If they survive this season, they're back down next.

Maybe Howson will thrive in a league where you don't have to dog it out, unless you're Stoke. Happy to be wrong, but he's bog standard championship to me.

Placid

gorefidel wrote
Loose Lips wrote
gorefidel wroteIts a poor move career wise, but a good one for money at this point.

It good on both points Gore. Norwich have turned a few heads and he isn't Arsenal material so in many ways it's almost a perfect career move.

We'll see. They have that first season hype going for them. Lambert is the new tan free Brown.

They have no benefactor - Bolton with no money. So once the agents and the players get through with the leveling up the money, they'll need more cash than they will generate

If they survive this season, they're back down next.

Maybe Howson will thrive in a league where you don't have to dog it out, unless you're Stoke. Happy to be wrong, but he's bog standard championship to me.

Howson needs to play with better players and he'll look good. Not sure if Norwich is going to give that to him. I hope he does well. I rate him as a player but not sure playing a long side BJ is going to propel him to the heights he seeks.

sock_tag

I don't agree about Lambert being a Brown without a Tan , I think he's the real deal ... I really can see him eventually being a top manager .... Maybe even taking over at Scum after Taggart fucks off.

gorefidel

Hope you're right and Lambert can push him onto the next level.

But Norwich? I am indeed in a different universe these days.

gorefidel

[quote=sock tag]I don't agree about Lambert being a Brown without a Tan , I think he's the real deal ... I really can see him eventually being a top manager .... Maybe even taking over at Scum after Taggart fucks off.[/quote]

We'll see. Brown was the real deal to a lot of people until that half time bollocks. Still isn't a bad coach...just got McClaren like credibility issues. And he kept them up the first season didn't he?

That Swiss ramble fella did an analysis of Norwich at the end of last season. Their chief exec said they were working on the basis that they'd go straight back down, bounce back up and then stabilise. If he does better than that then I guess he might be.

But achieving something before he's elected into the hall of fame would be nice. Norwich spent £20m to get up last year - thats how much the directors shoved in or hawked club assets against.

sock_tag

I always thought Brown was a media loving chancer who got lucky for a couple of years.
Lambert so far has been quietly very effective , you're right though , he's done well but has to push them to another level , I think he will and I think he'll move to a top four club within 3 or 4 seasons.

old_codger

In Lambert I see a quite unlikeable fella but a bloody good football manager who gets more out of some players than maybe even they knew they could produce. It will need plenty of luck for him to become a great manager, if 'great' is ascertained by honours won, and no matter how impressive they've been I don't expect that to be at Norwich.

Someone mentioned Owen Coyle as a good manager - I see Lambert as a dour version of Coyle. Gotta be honest, I wouldn't complain if either became our manager, same with Martinez and dare I say it, di Matteo.

white_dragon

old codger wroteIn Lambert I see a quite unlikeable fella but a bloody good football manager who gets more out of some players than maybe even they knew they could produce. It will need plenty of luck for him to become a great manager, if 'great' is ascertained by honours won, and no matter how impressive they've been I don't expect that to be at Norwich.

Someone mentioned Owen Coyle as a good manager - I see Lambert as a dour version of Coyle. Gotta be honest, I wouldn't complain if either became our manager, same with Martinez and dare I say it, di Matteo.

Totaly agree with 3 of your choices , not di matteo for me .
We can only dream though , as all of em are at bigger clubs .
Like Norwich saying Fergie will do if we loose Lambert .

Big_Society

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16661717.stm the reference to a 41 year old looking for a club in England should maybe worry us?

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